The hosts opened the show by discussion Rivian’s “micromobility” operation, which was recently spun off from the parent company. “ALSO,” as the new concern is called, is headquartered in California, and will focus on designing and building e-bikes, scooters, and other small electric vehicles.

Tom also briefly addressed the tariff situation, which is likely to become much bigger news in the next day or so. The hosts also lamented the violence being wrought upon Tesla cars and showrooms.

Tom expressed his surprise regarding the general excellence of the new-for-2025 Kia K4 small sedan. A replacement for the brand’s Forte model, the K4 is efficient, fun to drive, and also surprisingly affordable.

Jill reviewed the 2025 Lexus NX 450h+, a plug-in hybrid version of the Japanese luxury carmaker’s compact crossover. Though Jill balked at the price, her impressions were mostly positive. Listen in for her full review.

In the second segment, Jill and Tom welcome Derek Kravitz of Consumer Reports to the show. Derek shared research conducted by Consumer Reports regarding car data privacy, and what consumers can do to protect themselves from makers sharing their personal information.

In the last segment, Jill is subjected to Tom’s “Fake Paint” quiz.